United Kingdom (proposed), 2013
This one comes from a BBC News article about the fate of the British flag if Scotland secedes. (Short answer: probably nothing.) It doesn’t seem to be a proposal for a post-Scotland UK though. Rather it combines the crosses of St. George, St. Andrew, St. David, and St. Patrick into a crazy new pinwheel design. Kind of like a modern reinterpretation of the process that created the current Union Jack. I can’t imagine it would ever become a national flag, but wouldn’t it be rad if it did?
(designer: John Yates)
11/09/2013 - Maresme
King of Scotland, 1603-1689
James VI of Scotland was crowned on 29 July 1567. In 1603, he also became James I of England, and got this new royal standard.
So in the first and fourth quarters were the arms of Scotland, used since at least at least 1222. On the third quarter were the arms of Ireland, officially adopted when the Kingdom of Ireland was created in 1542 but used since the 13th century. (The harp is still used today but there’s no naked lady on it. Ireland changed the harp to look more like a traditional Celtic harp when it gained independence in 1922. And in the UK, Queen Elizabeth II expressed her preference for a ladyless harp in 1954.) On the second quarter were the arms of England, which was itself quartered between the three lions of England (used since 1198) and the fleurs-de-lis of France (used since the 13th century, reduced in number to three in 1406) owing to the English claim on the French throne. King James also had a royal standard as King of England, where the English and Scottish arms swapped places.
Medieval heraldry was complicated.
from: For Freedom and the Right - The Allies; The Montreal Daily Star - Family Herald and Weekly Star (insert); 1918.
Here’s a nice photo for St Andrew’s Day. Michael Forbes, voted by the public as ‘Top Scot’ at this week’s Glenfiddich Spirit of Scotland Awards.
There IS an environmental story at the heart of this and you can read more at ‘Man who lives in a ‘pigsty’ wins ‘Top Scot’ award’.
Some people representing their countries at their houses.
If Scotland became independent, what would happen to Australia and New Zealand’s flags (since their designs have the Union Jack, which uses a blue background and white saltire to represent Scotland)?
Nothing. Australia and New Zealand are fully independent countries and they can have any flag they want. They would have the option of altering their flag, but they wouldn’t have to if they didn’t want to (and if they were going to go through the trouble of changing their flags it would probably be to something entirely different.)
I also don’t imagine the United Kingdom would change its flag even if Scotland gained independence. The Union Flag is a classic design with a lot of history behind it, and from what I understand it’s pretty well-loved in Britain.
Charles II Restoration commemorative caudle cup: 1660
Tin-glazed earthenware commemorative caudle cup made in Southwark and decorated in blue, manganese, yellow and red on a white glaze with a half-length portrait of Charles II, crowned and wearing armour, flanked by the flags of St Andrew and St George, and inscribed:
‘C.R.’ and ‘DRINK UP YOUR DRINK AND LEVE NON IN FOR HEAR IS A HELTH TOO CHARLS OVER RYOUL KING’ and ‘WIB/1660’.
Caudle was a hot spicy drink of ale or wine whisked into an emulsion with egg yolk. During the 17th century, the term caudle (alternatively - lear) was also used to mean a sauce made of sack, butter and eggs for pouring into pies.
The Selkirk Common Riders
The event dating from the Battle of Flodden in 1513, remembers the story of Flodden, when Selkirk sent 80 men into battle with the Scottish King. One man returned, bearing a blood stained English flag.
Great Britain (Proposed, 1604)
The flag of Great Britain was first adopted on 12 April 1606 and was an elegant combination of the crosses of St George and St Andrew. Its descendant, the Union Flag, is one of the most well-known and beloved flags in the world. And if my regular trawls through the “flag" tag is anything to go by, it’s one of the most posted about flags on tumblr.
But the country could have ended up with something much less iconic. Around 1604, six possible combinations of the flags of England and Scotland were proposed, none of which were anywhere near as good as the design that was chosen two years later.